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	<title>Comments on: Taking Stock of the First Six Months Beyond the Walls: I Had No Idea&#8230;Really&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: 365pwords</title>
		<link>http://bgblogging.com/2008/11/12/taking-stock-of-the-first-six-months-beyond-the-walls-i-had-no-ideareally/#comment-659</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a lovely blog, Barbara. The writing, the ideas, and the gorgeous photos. 

 I started my own blog in April (www.365pwords.wordpress.com) because I needed to discipline myself to daily writing practice. .  

Because I didn&#039;t want to just ramble on mindlessly I chose to focus each post on words that began with the letter P (long story there...) 

It was working nicely until election season heated up and I found myself sucked into all Politics all Palin despite my revulsion for the latter. News moved fast and a lot of fast twtich response seemed necessary.

Now that we have a worthy President elect I can allow myself to slow down a bit. At this point my daily writing habit is fairly well established, but posting better stuff less often will be my next step. 

In the meantime, it&#039;s a great discipline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely blog, Barbara. The writing, the ideas, and the gorgeous photos. </p>
<p> I started my own blog in April (www.365pwords.wordpress.com) because I needed to discipline myself to daily writing practice. .  </p>
<p>Because I didn&#8217;t want to just ramble on mindlessly I chose to focus each post on words that began with the letter P (long story there&#8230;) </p>
<p>It was working nicely until election season heated up and I found myself sucked into all Politics all Palin despite my revulsion for the latter. News moved fast and a lot of fast twtich response seemed necessary.</p>
<p>Now that we have a worthy President elect I can allow myself to slow down a bit. At this point my daily writing habit is fairly well established, but posting better stuff less often will be my next step. </p>
<p>In the meantime, it&#8217;s a great discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: bgblogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Louise!  Welcome!  What fun to have you here and to find out that you, too, are a slow blogger, though you did not link to your blog.  I have ways of finding out...

Yes, I know of HASTAC and have thought of applying--once the nonprofit has wings.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louise!  Welcome!  What fun to have you here and to find out that you, too, are a slow blogger, though you did not link to your blog.  I have ways of finding out&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, I know of HASTAC and have thought of applying&#8211;once the nonprofit has wings.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: farfalle1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Barbara (You&#039;ll always be you-know-who to me...) Louise here from a million years ago.  Do you know about HASTAC? (http://www.hastac.org/) - I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s something you might be interested in, or the very thing you&#039;re trying to get away from - but it&#039;s all about collaborative digital work... I think. (To be honest I don&#039;t understand it well, but I like one of the founders, Cathy Davidson at Duke, very much).  I&#039;m so glad to have found your blog (thank you Kate - of course!) and will rss you right now. I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m a shameless commenter, so I&#039;ll be back.  Meanwhile, good on you for taking a big step at what felt like the right time, economy be damned.  There&#039;s no wrong time to do the right thing...  cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Barbara (You&#8217;ll always be you-know-who to me&#8230;) Louise here from a million years ago.  Do you know about HASTAC? (<a href="http://www.hastac.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hastac.org/</a>) &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s something you might be interested in, or the very thing you&#8217;re trying to get away from &#8211; but it&#8217;s all about collaborative digital work&#8230; I think. (To be honest I don&#8217;t understand it well, but I like one of the founders, Cathy Davidson at Duke, very much).  I&#8217;m so glad to have found your blog (thank you Kate &#8211; of course!) and will rss you right now. I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m a shameless commenter, so I&#8217;ll be back.  Meanwhile, good on you for taking a big step at what felt like the right time, economy be damned.  There&#8217;s no wrong time to do the right thing&#8230;  cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: bgblogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arti, thanks for the comment. Quitting my job felt absolutely necessary if I wanted to live what I embraced. I am all about teaching and learning but no longer about school--it is quite exciting to be in the world finding my way with this idea for Centers for Community Digital Exploration.

Harold,  It&#039;s great to have you here, and offering your advice!  I will explore your commons and be in touch, I am sure, to learn from you. I am grateful for your offer!

~bg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arti, thanks for the comment. Quitting my job felt absolutely necessary if I wanted to live what I embraced. I am all about teaching and learning but no longer about school&#8211;it is quite exciting to be in the world finding my way with this idea for Centers for Community Digital Exploration.</p>
<p>Harold,  It&#8217;s great to have you here, and offering your advice!  I will explore your commons and be in touch, I am sure, to learn from you. I am grateful for your offer!</p>
<p>~bg</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold Jarche]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came here via Will&#039;s post, as I haven&#039;t been following you lately, Barbara (limited bandwidth in my brain). The Centers for Community Digital Exploration are similar to what I attempted with our Work/Environmental/Cultural Commons here, but did not succeed at (so far). Follow the &quot;commons&quot; category on jarche.com if you want to learn more about it. Anyway, I spent a couple of years trying to get the Commons going and have some documentation, the stub of a business plan and a few bruises that I will gladly share with you.

I think that you have chosen the best time to launch this new venture because it is only when everything is falling apart that people are willing to try something new. I have also learned that there is a lot of support available from our fellow free-agents. Don&#039;t be afraid to ask :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here via Will&#8217;s post, as I haven&#8217;t been following you lately, Barbara (limited bandwidth in my brain). The Centers for Community Digital Exploration are similar to what I attempted with our Work/Environmental/Cultural Commons here, but did not succeed at (so far). Follow the &#8220;commons&#8221; category on jarche.com if you want to learn more about it. Anyway, I spent a couple of years trying to get the Commons going and have some documentation, the stub of a business plan and a few bruises that I will gladly share with you.</p>
<p>I think that you have chosen the best time to launch this new venture because it is only when everything is falling apart that people are willing to try something new. I have also learned that there is a lot of support available from our fellow free-agents. Don&#8217;t be afraid to ask <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Weblogg-ed &#187; Writing to Connect</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weblogg-ed &#187; Writing to Connect]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Barbara Ganley (who was featured last week in the Times as a &#8220;slow blogger&#8221;) is consdering this as well. As a college teacher, I thought I was all about collaborative learning, about students taking [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Barbara Ganley (who was featured last week in the Times as a &#8220;slow blogger&#8221;) is consdering this as well. As a college teacher, I thought I was all about collaborative learning, about students taking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Arti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Barbara, I admit I&#039;ve discovered your blog relatively recently, but I&#039;ve caught up with some of your thoughts and writing.   I admire also how you had the courage to quit a secure employment  to venture out into self exploration.  As well, I&#039;ve appreciated your stand on &quot;Slow Blogging&quot;, a notion that I&#039;ve put into practice all along but not finding a proper name for it.  Thanks for creating an inspiring blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barbara, I admit I&#8217;ve discovered your blog relatively recently, but I&#8217;ve caught up with some of your thoughts and writing.   I admire also how you had the courage to quit a secure employment  to venture out into self exploration.  As well, I&#8217;ve appreciated your stand on &#8220;Slow Blogging&#8221;, a notion that I&#8217;ve put into practice all along but not finding a proper name for it.  Thanks for creating an inspiring blog.</p>
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		<title>By: bgblogging</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bgblogging]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lanny,

I hear the same thing from community organizers around here.  And I agree that until the full institution moves out into the community as part of what it does, it is difficult to make a big enough difference.  One thing my daughter&#039;s college does well is require community service related to a student&#039;s course of study before the student can pass into the senior year. Of course, she also has to create her own course of study, put together an advising board, and argue in front of them for what she&#039;s doing and why.  

I hope you&#039;ll blog about the discussions moving towards service learning at UIUC.

bg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lanny,</p>
<p>I hear the same thing from community organizers around here.  And I agree that until the full institution moves out into the community as part of what it does, it is difficult to make a big enough difference.  One thing my daughter&#8217;s college does well is require community service related to a student&#8217;s course of study before the student can pass into the senior year. Of course, she also has to create her own course of study, put together an advising board, and argue in front of them for what she&#8217;s doing and why.  </p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll blog about the discussions moving towards service learning at UIUC.</p>
<p>bg</p>
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		<title>By: Lanny Arvan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lanny Arvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barbara - the context of the statement is from the descriptions of the community organizers themselves.  They really don&#039;t have the time to be supervisors.  So it works if the students can jump right in.  Right now, my campus is not doing this at volume, so I can&#039;t comment about the relative splits on the doers versus the others.  

I&#039;ve been a big proponent of service learning done on campus.  (A bunch of posts on the topic from a while back are here: http://lanny-on-learn-tech.blogspot.com/search/label/INSL. ) I don&#039;t think the desired outcome can happen by individual instructors trying to implement something in their own classes.  That&#039;s too hit or miss.  Of course, I&#039;ve not gotten my campus to move to this vision yet.  But at least we&#039;re beginning to talk about it.

Lanny]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara &#8211; the context of the statement is from the descriptions of the community organizers themselves.  They really don&#8217;t have the time to be supervisors.  So it works if the students can jump right in.  Right now, my campus is not doing this at volume, so I can&#8217;t comment about the relative splits on the doers versus the others.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a big proponent of service learning done on campus.  (A bunch of posts on the topic from a while back are here: <a href="http://lanny-on-learn-tech.blogspot.com/search/label/INSL" rel="nofollow">http://lanny-on-learn-tech.blogspot.com/search/label/INSL</a>. ) I don&#8217;t think the desired outcome can happen by individual instructors trying to implement something in their own classes.  That&#8217;s too hit or miss.  Of course, I&#8217;ve not gotten my campus to move to this vision yet.  But at least we&#8217;re beginning to talk about it.</p>
<p>Lanny</p>
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		<title>By: bgblogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MEB,

Thanks for reading on even after I have left. I see my old students all the time but rarely my colleagues.  It would be nice to shift that a bit!

Lanny,

I&#039;m very interested in this statement: &quot;...students who work well in a community setting are self-starters and don’t need to be told what to do. I’m not sure where that comes from but the students who have it almost certainly had it before they came to Campus.&quot;   I wonder what percentage of students we are talking about.  Certainly family experience and personality probably have something to do with this perception.  And what are we doing for/with those who do not &quot;have it&quot;?  I saw the same thing at Middlebury, but refuse to accept that we cannot change, we cannot grow, learn and evolve.  Look at me--Sure, I am awkward in some of my interactions out here, but I am learning quickly!  If higher ed culture made community-based study and creative work a priority, a value, then, well, I think we&#039;d see students shifting, too.

Shannon&#039;s reply is case in point--Thanks, Shannon, for hopping on--you have long provided me with terrific feedback from your position as a college student!  We give students no time at all for community-based learning, and when we do, it is on their time rather than as part of the mission of the education itself.  Shannon,  in saying, &quot; So often I feel my experiences in the classroom are just artificial means to produce artificial results that mean nothing,&quot; you articulate what so many of my students have told me, and how I felt in many of my classes as a student.  My own daughters repeat this refrain as well.  To see my older daughter burst into blossom only when she graduated from college (one of the nation&#039;s most revered institutions at that) and my younger daughter learn far far more from her travels and explorations in the world than in any class  (or the sum of her classes)  at her college support your contention.  So so wasteful. (I second your rant!)

~bg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MEB,</p>
<p>Thanks for reading on even after I have left. I see my old students all the time but rarely my colleagues.  It would be nice to shift that a bit!</p>
<p>Lanny,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested in this statement: &#8220;&#8230;students who work well in a community setting are self-starters and don’t need to be told what to do. I’m not sure where that comes from but the students who have it almost certainly had it before they came to Campus.&#8221;   I wonder what percentage of students we are talking about.  Certainly family experience and personality probably have something to do with this perception.  And what are we doing for/with those who do not &#8220;have it&#8221;?  I saw the same thing at Middlebury, but refuse to accept that we cannot change, we cannot grow, learn and evolve.  Look at me&#8211;Sure, I am awkward in some of my interactions out here, but I am learning quickly!  If higher ed culture made community-based study and creative work a priority, a value, then, well, I think we&#8217;d see students shifting, too.</p>
<p>Shannon&#8217;s reply is case in point&#8211;Thanks, Shannon, for hopping on&#8211;you have long provided me with terrific feedback from your position as a college student!  We give students no time at all for community-based learning, and when we do, it is on their time rather than as part of the mission of the education itself.  Shannon,  in saying, &#8221; So often I feel my experiences in the classroom are just artificial means to produce artificial results that mean nothing,&#8221; you articulate what so many of my students have told me, and how I felt in many of my classes as a student.  My own daughters repeat this refrain as well.  To see my older daughter burst into blossom only when she graduated from college (one of the nation&#8217;s most revered institutions at that) and my younger daughter learn far far more from her travels and explorations in the world than in any class  (or the sum of her classes)  at her college support your contention.  So so wasteful. (I second your rant!)</p>
<p>~bg</p>
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